I have a lot of respect for the work the Barna group does, a fact that attracted me to the content of THIS VIDEO of a Webcast the Barna people recently produced on the campus of Pepperdine University on the state of pastors (and the Church) in the modern era.
The video is more than four hour long, so you will likely want to click around in the content. But I think you'll find the scanning worth your time.
I'm intrigued by this. Hopefully next week I can dive into this a little and start some dialogue. But yes, four hours is quite a lot!