News & Current Events
wolfgang_schneider — 2017-09-05T04:33:55-04:00 — #1
just came across an interesting article in connection with the events in Charlottesville, giving the matter much more exhaustive consideration and providing also a perspective based in information from first hand witnesses ... rather than the mass media propaganda.
The two Americas at Charlottesville
Perhaps a more objective view on things currently going on ... with some background information which most may never have even heard of and which is carefully avoided by the mass media propaganda
dave_l — 2017-09-05T06:09:54-04:00 — #2
““Don’t call everything a conspiracy, like they do, and don’t live in dread of what frightens them.” (Isaiah 8:12)
“Make the LORD of Heaven’s Armies holy in your life. He is the one you should fear. He is the one who should make you tremble.” (Isaiah 8:13)
tyrone_howard — 2017-09-05T13:41:15-04:00 — #3
Some of the points he makes are noteworthy. Most of it is just a huge amount of buildup - to make a rather small point, hidden amongst so much "conspiracy" rhetoric that you might miss it.
That is, the offender was running for his life, from someone who identified him as an enemy, so he drove his car into a crowd of people, Killing a "not-so-innocent" protester who didn't have rights to be there - which was then twisted by Mass Media to continue to drive hate amongst the common people - which is an extended plan of the "powers that be".
shrug Why he did what he did, is quite irrelevant to me, Honestly. I don't approve of removing History. I also Don't approve of through, fear or panicking injuring someone else. If I'm returning fire, to someone shooting at me, and I hit an innocent Bystander, I'm responsible. I should have had better Aim - or Not returned Fire in a public place. I can't claim self defense, I was not defending myself against the innocent bystander.
I could try to show remorse, and possibly plea out to a lessor charge once mitigating circumstances are considered. I haven't seen much remorse.
gao_lu — 2017-09-06T00:08:54-04:00 — #4
Just got to thinking, if the statues of General Lee should be torn down, then his home place, Arlington Cemetery, should also be uprooted and torn down.
alex_vaughn — 2017-09-06T12:02:26-04:00 — #5
The statues of Gen. Lee are celebrating and memorializing a person, who dishonor do and rebelled against the US. That doesn't seem appropriate for the US or for officials who have sworn allegiance to the US to take part in.
Arlington Cemetery sits on the land taken from Gen. Robert E. Lee by the order of Quartermaster Gen Meigs in part to prevent the Lee from ever living at their Arlington home in the future. Originally the purpose of the cemetery was to bury Union soldiers. In no way does the cemetery honor Gen. Lee or the Confederacy.
wolfgang_schneider — 2017-09-06T12:55:09-04:00 — #6
Funny .... all the ruckus about Robert E. Lee recently and the taring down of his statue seems to have been about him promoting and defending slavery ... with NOTHING about "rebelling against the US".
Actually, looking back more than a century and considering the development of things under "Washington's Empire rule", the world may have been a better place had the war of secession ended differently. The empire has continued to treat anyone and all who are disagreeing with its hegemony and dictatorship with war and oppression .... to this very day. Funny also, that the Northern Empire, being rebels themselves and having seceded from the British empire about a century before, then made war against those who sought freedom from their oppression
gao_lu — 2017-09-06T18:29:46-04:00 — #7
I am uneasy about that argument and yet something about it rings with disturbing clarity. Years ago, I was part of a group in Virginia discussing this very thing. I avoided participating, but your bringing it up is disturbing all over again. Interesting.
It's all in the eye, or heart of the beholder, isn't it. We must guard our hearts.