News & Current Events
justin_gatlin — 2017-08-12T19:10:23-04:00 — #1
Here is something I wrote to post on Facebook to help the people of my church and in my sphere of influence to think carefully about the riot in Charlottesville.
Is there a middle way between ignoring the good things a deeply flawed person did and putting up statues of them that grieve the hearts of those they hurt? Is there a middle way between ignoring the philosophical underpinnings of our society and worshiping heritage? Is there a middle way between chanting "You will not replace us" and the deification of alien cultures? Is there a middle way between believing someone is wrong and undermining their worth as a person and an image bearer of God?
Is there a way to live together, lay down our own preferences, value one another and engage in spirited, but respectful debate about the key beliefs that guide us in the difficult decisions we all must face?
There is, but it will take patience with each other and kindness to each other. It will have no room for envy, boasting or shameful behavior. It will have to give up on self-seeking, choose not to be easily provoked and refuse to think evil of the other side. It will have to have real joy in it - not in evil, but in Truth. This way would have to bear all kinds of things, believe the best in all things, hope in all things and endure through everything.
Such a way is not easy, automatic or comfortable. It could not be led by people whose leaders and heroes are marked by divisiveness and pride. The only one who could lead such a path would have to be meek and lowly of heart, taking on the pain and shame of the outcast even to the point of the most painful and shameful death imaginable. It is a way that could only be taken by people who reject any claims of self-righteousness and freely confess that their only worth is that Someone has already come down this way for them.
While knowledge puffs us up, this way would build up. This way would say "If eating meat offends my brother, I will never eat meet again while the world stands." This way would say "I will rejoice with those who rejoice, and weep with those who weep." This way would bless the ones who curse us, do good to the ones who do evil to us and pray for those who despitefully use us.
You know what it is. Why not try it?
dave_l — 2017-08-14T06:46:41-04:00 — #2
As long as people believe there are different races, there will be bigotry. "Us and them" . But scripture teaches we are all "them". There is only one race, the human race. And apart from that we are of diverse ethnicities, but remain one common blood.
He has made from one blood every nation of men to live on the entire face of the earth, having appointed fixed times and the boundaries of their habitation, Acts 17:26 (MEV)
bkmitchell — 2017-08-14T07:14:12-04:00 — #3
Heather Heyer, Charlottesville Victim, Is Recalled as ‘a Strong Woman’
bkmitchell — 2017-08-14T07:18:48-04:00 — #4
Far-Right Groups Surge Into National View in Charlottesville
bkmitchell — 2017-08-14T07:21:50-04:00 — #5
bkmitchell — 2017-08-14T07:23:27-04:00 — #6
wolfgang_schneider — 2017-08-16T14:54:57-04:00 — #7
Here's some info some may not like which touches on the current wave of "fight against the south" and various other kinds of fights / wars going on inside the USA :...
Of course, some here may not even read the linked article, because they don't like the author PC Roberts
In America Propaganda Has Vanquished Truth
bill_coley — 2017-08-16T15:40:43-04:00 — #8
Of course, some others here might conclude from the article to which you linked (and his other writings) that Paul Craig Roberts does not deserve to be read, Wolfgang. This latest essay is more of Roberts' error-laden, revisionist history. He has a right to his point of view, but he does not have a right to expect that all readers will value or even respect his distorted and uninformed point of view.
wolfgang_schneider — 2017-08-16T16:31:13-04:00 — #9
Looking on from the outside may be an advantage to see "the woods" and have a better view of "the overall picture" compared to being inside the woods and not being able to see the woods for the many trees blocking one's view
It's the same with biblical matters .... being inside a denomination or theological dogma framework makes it oftentimes very difficult to gain a proper understanding of certain truths because they are clouded by dogma and tradition. Once outside of the constraints and restraints of the church, denomination, dogma framework and free to think for oneself and evaluate various information enables a person to reach a better and more true understanding because the veil of dogma and tradition no longer holds a person captive
bill_coley — 2017-08-16T17:32:22-04:00 — #10
But facts are facts, Wolfgang. What happened (and what DIDN'T happen) is what happened (and didn't happen). There is no political viewpoint whose defense justifies false depiction of either reality or history. Yet, Mr. Roberts routinely engages in just such depiction. At some point - and in my view, it already has - his voice loses moral authority, much as in the U.S. I believe, we're about to witness a precipitous decline in President Trump's moral authority now that his response to the horror of Charlottesville (et al!) has demonstrated that he holds views antithetical to American values.
There will always be communities who welcome views such as those held by Roberts and Trump, whether inside or outside the U.S. or denominational structures. But I am convinced that the power and authority of God will strengthen those who stand against their views. Our nation will free itself of Trump's moral and ethical ugliness, and Paul Craig Roberts will be read as the uninformed, politically partisan, historical revisionist that he is.