bkmitchell — 2017-10-04T08:28:45-04:00 — #1
Disclaimer the posting of this video does not necessarily represent an automatic endorsement of content, ideas, or theories rather this video is posted for the sake of conversation:
dave_l — 2017-10-04T11:21:14-04:00 — #2
Moral responsibility stems from being judged guilty of sin in Adam. So whether someone holds a gun to our head and makes us want to sin rather than face the consequences. Or whether we want to sin because of our nature, in both cases wanting to sin is our only option.
justin_gatlin — 2017-10-04T11:36:35-04:00 — #3
I think this is nice, although I tend toward libertarianism, because I think the sinlessness of Jesus is a Frankfurt case. He, as God, could ontologically not have sinned, but as man empowered by the Holy Spirit, freely chose not to sin.
dave_l — 2017-10-04T14:16:20-04:00 — #4
But Christ was one divine person (God) who cannot sin , with two natures. One fully human and the other fully divine.
justin_gatlin — 2017-10-04T21:29:37-04:00 — #5
His divine nature has, as a fundamental characteristic, the inability to sin. But, even if that were not true, His human nature was 100% obedient and reliant on God. Just like in the video, He could not have sinned because of His divine nature, but did not anyway.
wolfgang_schneider — 2017-10-05T02:30:54-04:00 — #6
If Jesus (or just part of him, could not have sinned, he would not have been adequate and qualified to be man's redeemer ...
Get rid of the false doctrine / dogma of the Trinity, and you have the simple Biblical truth => the man Christ Jesus was in all things obedient to God, His Father, and due to his obedience did not sin.
justin_gatlin — 2017-10-05T08:33:11-04:00 — #7
What scripture are you thinking of here?