dave_l — 2017-11-07T10:29:33-05:00 — #1
This is about 14 1/2 minutes long but provides a fresh look at an old subject. If you have time it is worth hearing his take on the subject of election and the reason God created us.
fred — 2017-11-07T13:31:25-05:00 — #2
wolfgang_schneider — 2017-11-07T14:09:09-05:00 — #3
Oh dear ... oh dear ... seldom heard such a misunderstanding of Lk 4:18ff (especially the words of Jesus concerning the widows in Israel/widow in Sareptah, lepers in Israel and Naaman the Syrian) ...
It looks to me like this rather famous teacher did not get at all the point of Jesus' words, as he was replying to the people at the synagogue at Nazareth on that day. The passage from Lk 4 here which he turns into a lesson on God's election has nothing at all to do with God picking and choosing Whom He wants to pick and choose, but rather illustrates the unbelief found among those in Israel whereas people outside "the chosen people" believed ...
And then of course he uses "the trick of the trade of preaching non-sense and making it convincing" => he boldly declares the big fat claim that this doctrine of election (as also some other dubious doctrines) "must be embraced with simple and unquestioning faith" ... Sure, don't question, stay "simple (unlearned)", and "embrace what your preacher proclaims ... Well, if that is what Christianity is about, then "good night, Christianity"!
And on it goes ... and gets worse ... very nicely packaged and very nicely sold to the hearers ... however, folks, not every sweet word even when spoken by a renowned preacher is healthy or sound doctrine
dave_l — 2017-11-07T14:41:25-05:00 — #4
I gather you do not agree with him?
wolfgang_schneider — 2017-11-07T16:46:50-05:00 — #5
You actually gathered that one!