News & Current Events
bkmitchell — 2016-04-13T10:18:36-04:00 — #1
Recently (yesterday at 8:53am) the ChristianDiscourse forums were mentioned in passing on a thread on the Logos forums. The just of the statement was that the Logos forums are a more welcoming and friendly place than the ChristianDiscourse forums. Now, of course, the statement reflects one individual's opinion and I do not have any data on if that opinion is representative of a much larger group. I can not even objectively prove if the statement is true,
However, I am none-the-less curious on what can be done to make Christian Discourse.com a more welcoming, friendly, and Christian experience?
gao_lu — 2016-04-13T11:01:02-04:00 — #2
We can change our status for better on the Logos forums. BK, you do your part well. I am determined to do better.
What we can do to be more welcoming to the public:
1. Maintain quality content
2. Warm engagement
3. Welcome newcomers
4. Invite newcomers
5. Include quality Logos/Faithlife oriented discussion
There are less obvious public benefits:
1. Some of us live in some form of isolation and hunger for fellowship and sharpening among peers
2. Some of us share common needs and cultural challenges and appreciate a way to communicate through those.
There are private benefits unseen in public which add value:
1. Personal friendships
2. Counsel and encouragement
3. Bible study sessions
4. Collaborative efforts of participants on projects (I am presently involved in one)
My wife is calling me...more later.
wolfgang_schneider — 2016-04-13T11:57:44-04:00 — #3
Perhaps the person has this impression because for the most part any exchange on the forums is about technical matters and the general and personal use of Logos software etc ... while on CD the main focus is about theological matters, beliefs, views on current events, etc ... ??
There will be little or no controversy on the Logos forums due to the nature of the topics discussed, while there will certainly be some controversy on CD forums simply because of WHAT is discussed.
alex_vaughn — 2016-04-13T15:55:37-04:00 — #4
A ecumenical outlook certainly helps, but also the very long discussion threads can be daunting for a newcomer.
gao_lu — 2016-04-13T18:54:20-04:00 — #5
Do you mean long threads or long posts? Or both?
alex_vaughn — 2016-04-14T23:48:18-04:00 — #6
I think the two issues have different problems.
Long posts require more time than most are willing to spend reading a single post. My limit is about 1 screen full of text. If it is well-organized and written, then perhaps 1 1/2 screens of text. If you'd like to write a book, article, or make a podcast on a topic, then do that and give a summary with a link.
Long threads are difficult for newcomers to the conversation. It is like joining into a conversation 30 mins after it started. To make matters more difficult there are often multiple sub-conversations occurring as opposed to a single dialogue. Now, of course new topics can be spawned referring to old conversations, but then it becomes more difficult to keep track of the various sub-conversations. (To be honest, if a conversation from 9 months ago suddenly picked up again, I'm not sure I'd know immediately what is being discussed. Perhaps archiving after 1 year would be helpful.)
raghuveer_singh — 2017-07-19T21:14:16-04:00 — #7
justin_gatlin — 2017-07-20T14:29:00-04:00 — #8
Extremely long discussions which often venture far from the stated topic are hard to join in. Some of the posts on the forum are difficult to follow (due to a lack of paragraph breaks, malapropism or a rhetorical strategy) or degrade into the same pet issues over and over. All of these factors make joining unpleasant.
The absence of moderation (we still have a sticky post about the US election) also makes it feel abandoned.
gao_lu — 2017-07-20T19:05:39-04:00 — #9
You should be able to "unstick" this for yourself. If not let me know.
Formal moderation has been abandoned. The intern who created this forum and originally sort of moderated it is long gone. We are self-propelled. Reminds me of the old days in Alaska.
dave_l — 2017-07-21T08:01:58-04:00 — #10
I do not think a moderator is the solution. Since that amounts to censorship based on the moderators leanings. But Bill and Tyrone suggested simply ignoring posts not to our liking. I think this is best since everyone can continue offering their thoughts whether challenged or not.
tyrone_howard — 2017-07-21T11:50:04-04:00 — #11
everyone has brought great points.
I agree the difference between the purpose of the logos forums and christian discourse forums plays a huge role. How to read a Bible, and what the bible is saying would bring up two different forms of discussion.
I also agree lack of moderation plays a role in discouraging new users. Seeing that pinned election post [which i cannot unpin] has driven me insane]
The post which breaks off into separate discussions which result into the same arguments found on every post is also discouraging.
I would like to add
But also our inability to have a discussion with out knowing when to stop. For Christians we often do not exercise a lack of control with our own words...and we can hide behind what we call our "heart" or whatever but a person reading the post ( as I've re read some of mine) can sense the frustration, malice etc for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks - or types
Its why I've tried to make a purpose recently to present a more Christ-Like mode of discussion. If Jesus dealt with those who doubted, or lacked understanding like Philip or Timothy - in the same manner we deal with each other - I'm not sure we would find talking to him so pleasant either.
dave_l — 2017-07-21T13:48:02-04:00 — #12
I would like to see less arguing between posters in the forum. I notice in some of the better controlled debates a person will present their views on the topic. And then another will post their views. With little exchange between the debaters. And the listener can decide which might be more scriptural. So there is little dickering back and forth. And no crushed egos. I've posted a few articles from time to time in hopes of achieving this. Not to argue, but to share what the Lord taught me.