bkmitchell — 2017-08-05T21:14:34-04:00 — #1
Is the concept of Tithing (or giving 10%) applicable to New Covenant Christians?
Why or Why not?
dave_l — 2017-08-06T07:07:08-04:00 — #2
I think tithing from a motive of love is good. But tithing legalistically is not necessary.
If I give all my goods to feed the poor, and if I give my body to be burned, and have not love, it profits me nothing. 1 Corinthians 13:3 (MEV)
lu1 — 2017-08-06T12:29:17-04:00 — #3
Tithing... The Biblical principle. There is tithing of 10% in the Bible. There is also tithing up to 23% in the Bible after all is said and done. We see that in the bible as well.
So what does tithing have to do with Christians? The Law O.T. required us to do things. The Law of the Spirt's requirements are different. The Sermon on the Mount shows us this. Christians are called to live differently. It is about our motives not about our requirements. Christians don't have to call it tithing it is now called Offerings by Christians as in sacrifice. But our motive is this. Do we give with a pure motive. The Love of God, everything we have is from the Lord. Nothing we have is not from the Lord. If we are really hearing from the Lord you may be called to give 40% or 5%. The amount isn't the point. It is about living in the Spirit, trusting Jesus and being obedient to the Father.
Should Christians tithe is the wrong question. Though tithing is not wrong just the wrong question. The proper questions are more in line with what is the Holy Spirit saying to an individual about what to offer? Where is your heart concerning money? Is love of money in your heart or is being obedient to the Spirit concerning money your most important concern? Are you willing to use the tool of money to usher in the Kingdom of God? Or are you saying to God, I am willing to meet the basics of the requirements but not willing to listen to Him concerning how and why am I offering to Him?
Churches like tithing for many reasons. One of them is with tithing they know what resources they have weekly. Again nothing wrong with the idea from a budgeting stand point. But this is my concern for churches are they trusting the Lord totally. Again, this is about heart motives.
I mentioned the Sermon on the Mount before. Jesus shows us in that narrative the importance of our heart's motives. An example of this in the O.T is when Jesus saw the women give her all in the Temple. She didn't give 10% only, it wasn't much but her heart was about doing what God wanted her to do. I believe she was blessed more than we know from this simple act.
justin_gatlin — 2017-08-06T17:54:14-04:00 — #4
Since 1 Corinthians 16:2 says we should give a proportion of our income, and the only portion ever given is 10%, it seems likely that the tithe is implied. Because the New Covenant drives all obligations deeper, we should be committed to God's ownership of everything we possess and should see ourselves as stewards, rather than masters. I have a hard time imagining when that stewardship would require giving less than a tithe. It is enough to require faith, but not so much as to be presumptuous, even for the poor.
At the very least, 2 Corinthians 9:7 says that we should make, in our hearts, a commitment to give a certain amount, then cheerfully follow through. Ten percent or more seems to be absolutely logical.
gao_lu — 2017-08-06T18:19:50-04:00 — #5
Some good answers. I don't know how to improve on them.
lu1 — 2017-08-06T19:05:24-04:00 — #6
I have a question. Tithing/Offering is it limited to Churches, for example supporting an overseas Christian orphanage is that tithing/Offering?
dave_l — 2017-08-07T07:47:07-04:00 — #7
I believe tithing and observing a day of rest are for our benefit. But we are not legalistically bound by them. Tithing helps hold greed in check. And not making money one day a week also removes the yoke greed imposes on so many. I consider it a tithe when I leave a generous tip for a needy waiter or waitress at a restaurant. Or contribute food to a food bank. Or give valuable goods and skilled services to the needy. I have tithed to churches and orphans over the years, but always understood this as a gift of grace God gave to me.
TITHE [Heb ʿāśar (עָשַׂר) (verb), maʿăśēr (מַעֲשֵׂר) (noun); Gk apodekatoō (ἀποδεκατοω), dekatoō (δεκατοω) (verbs), dekatē (δεκατη) (noun)]. The religious act of giving a tenth for the support of a religious purpose.
Wilson, J. C. (1992). Tithe. In D. N. Freedman (Ed.), The Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary (Vol. 6, p. 578). New York: Doubleday.
tyrone_howard — 2017-08-07T11:35:36-04:00 — #8
Good Answer, as was so many others. I can't improve, not even on yours Dave (kidding) so I'll piggyback.
I struggle with this sometimes, but i think it comes down to if all that's his is yours and all that's yours is his, would you withhold anything from him.
If he spoke to you right now and said sell everything you have, give it to "insert church/organizations thats not your own here", would you?
At the same time I DO FEEL, within myself, as my pastor is a good shepherd, the workman is worthy of his hire.