bkmitchell — 2017-08-13T07:45:06-04:00 — #1
... and this is the life eternal, that they may know you, the only true God, as well as him whom you sent -- Yeshua (Jesus) the chosen one (Messiah / Christ); ... John 17:3
(1) What does the above mean? Or, rather how do you understand 17:3 in its greater context in the Gospel of John?
(2) As long as one accepts the one true God, and the Messiah does it matter how they understand the ontological relationship between the one true God and His Messiah in regards to the life eternal?
dave_l — 2017-08-13T08:00:45-04:00 — #2
1) I believe if you have eternal life, you will acknowledge both the Father and the Son as being God. I like the Geneva Bible translation which says; And this is life eternal, that they knowe thee to be the onely verie God, and whome thou hast sent, Jesus Christ. John 17:3 (Geneva)
2) We cannot discern and accept the true God in the flesh by willing it. But if God takes up residence in us through the New Birth, we will recognize the true Christ apart from the rest people call Christ.
bkmitchell — 2017-08-13T08:19:09-04:00 — #3
That's a fascinating translation and the notes attached to it back in 1599 may illustrate how the translator/translators understood the text:
He calls the Father the only true God in order to set him against all false gods, and to include himself and the Holy Spirit, for he immediately joins the knowledge of the Father and the knowledge of himself together, and according to his accustomed manner sets forth the whole Godhead in the person of the Father. So is the Father alone said to be King, immortal, wise, dwelling in light which no man can attain unto, and invisible; (Rom 16:27; Ti1 1:17). (link)
tyrone_howard — 2017-08-14T15:48:11-04:00 — #4
1) Eternal life is knowing God, for God is life.If you receive the one sent, you receive the sender.Knowing Jesus is knowing The Father,
2)No it does not matter, as long as one accepts Christ. Jesus said Believe I am in the father, and the father is in me and we are one OR believe me for the very works sake.
Whether through understanding of who Jesus is eternally or if you believe in Jesus because he died on the Cross for your sins. Both lead unto life eternal.