bkmitchell — 2017-08-08T06:42:25-04:00 — #1
(1) How do you define the term predestination?
(2) Do you believe in it? Yes or No and why?
(2a) If yes what scriptures do you believe support the concept?
(2b) If no what scriptures do you believe prove predestination to be unlikely?
(3) In your opinion does it make any significant differences whether or not a Christian believes or disbelieves in the concept of predestination? If, yes please explain.
(4) In your opinion has the concept/doctrine of predestination been good or bad for the Church?
dave_l — 2017-08-08T07:43:27-04:00 — #2
Some scientist today believe all that ever will be, including our thoughts and actions, had been set into irreversible and unchangeable motion by the Big Bang. And I believe this is true, only that the Big Bang has God in all of his wisdom behind it. If the Big Bang is not true, it at least illustrates the biblical doctrine of Predestination.
As I wrote to Gao lu in his thoughts about the "order of salvation", I do not think God thinks and acts in time. He is eternal and time is created. So I believe everything that ever was, is or will be happened at once upon creation. And falls out in time according to secondary causes, or chain reactions. Even our choices are the products of preceding secondary causes, which are effects of God the first cause.