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gao_lu — 2017-05-21T21:11:48-04:00 — #1
dave_l — 2017-05-22T05:43:44-04:00 — #2
This is interesting. But it brings up something I have spoken against from my earliest years in Christ. That of being a "Christian with a career" VS being a "Career Christian".
The Christian with a career doesn't forsake all to make following Christ his or her career. They continue doing their own thing and "Christianize" it.
But the Career Christian forsakes all to follow Christ, seeking first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness, fed and clothed by God as a result of this, without career plans, walking through whatever door God opens.
gao_lu — 2017-05-22T06:18:26-04:00 — #3
I appreciate your point. How are you working this out in your life?
dave_l — 2017-05-22T07:39:33-04:00 — #4
I have a fascinating life of faith living out of God's hand. Free from doing what people expect of me and doing what is right instead. Without fear of losing jobs or position. Knowing, and having proven many times over, God is my source. This alone is priceless.
tyrone_howard — 2017-05-22T10:57:17-04:00 — #5
There is no such thing as the Greatest Christian. John the Baptist , among those born to a woman none was greater, never the less, even the least in the Kingdom is greater then He. This is the Testimony of Jesus on this issue. And This Mine.
alex_vaughn — 2017-05-22T13:19:43-04:00 — #6
Paul made his living making tents (Acts 18:3). I believe that we should baptize our occupations into Christianity, and acknowledge the privilege in the US that our ministers can work full-time serving the Church.
@Tyrone_Howard I have 2 questions regarding your use of the Like 7:28 text.
1) Was Mary the mother of Jesus a woman?
2) How was John the Baptist a Christian, not being in the Kingdom according to your quote?
tyrone_howard — 2017-05-22T14:34:30-04:00 — #7
1) Yes Mary was a woman.
2) I didn't say he wasn't in the Kingdom.
dave_l — 2017-05-22T14:50:46-04:00 — #8
Paul, as many Jewish youth including Jesus learned trades as part of their up bringing. The disciples were mostly skilled fishermen. But all ended up making Jesus their career, and supplementing that with their skills and talents. But I believe many try to serve both God and mammon. Shunning Christ's words and taking thought (training) for tomorrow. But Jesus said; “So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.” Luke 14:33 (KJV 1900)
“And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.” Acts 11:26 (KJV 1900)
gao_lu — 2017-05-22T18:10:33-04:00 — #9
You don't have any kind of job? Are you looking for employment? Or don't want it?
dave_l — 2017-05-23T05:29:30-04:00 — #10
I'm happily retired. Not looking for employment. But I am sharing a lifetime of experience, having made full proof of how the Lord is faithful to his word for those who make a career out of seeking first his Kingdom and his Righteousness, based on Matthew 6:24-34.
gao_lu — 2017-05-23T07:02:43-04:00 — #11
...not looking for employment......I see.......
You do have a lot of experience. A lifetime of if it you say. Sharing your insight could be invaluable.
- In what ways did you make a career out of seeking first his Kingdom and his Righteousness?
- Go ahead and provide us some of the "proofs" you mentioned that you are sharing.
Thanks in advance.
dave_l — 2017-05-23T10:31:32-04:00 — #12
Soon after the Lord converted me I realized that my materialistic and cherished life goals were not in line with the New Testament. And that if we were not to lay up treasure on earth, a lot of what people seek and train for is sin and vanity.
So I began working dead end, part-time, unskilled minimum wage jobs, in obedience to the Word. But to make a long story short, God is faithful and I retired early, debt and mortgage free, out of my own pocket. Never needing assistance, and never missing a day's work from not having a job despite a few job closings and severe recessions.
Life isn't easy on the low rung and it provides empathy for birds of like feather. I once worked my way up to being Plant Manager in a non-union factory. But lost out when I demanded a fair wage for all of the employees when told to extract more than a reasonable amount of work from them. But the Lord rewarded that with a better job and pay. And I have other similar experiences along the way. Living far above my means renting nice homes for a fraction of their worth. Medicine free for decades... Many other things I could mention.
But I gave-up little when compared to the hundredfold I gained through it all, as God promised.
gao_lu — 2017-05-23T19:07:54-04:00 — #13
Quite a story, Dave. Thanks for sharing.